MagicChat

Train an AI support chatbot on your own content and embed it on your site

KINDA · partial replacement
price $59/mosubscription / year $708estimated build time weekendreplaced by 0 people

A retrieval chatbot over your own docs is one of the most one-shottable products there is: crawl the site, chunk and embed it, answer from the top matches with an LLM, drop in a widget. What you don't get for free is the boring operational layer, scheduled re-crawls, analytics, lead capture and human handoff, multi-source connectors, and a hosted widget that stays up. Buildable in a weekend, real gaps after that.

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What you give up

  • scheduled auto re-crawl and content refresh
  • analytics and conversation-history dashboards
  • lead capture and human handoff
  • multi-source connectors and integrations
  • hosted uptime for the widget
  • team seats and enterprise compliance (HIPAA/DPA/BAA)

Why people still pay

People pay so they never touch the plumbing: the crawler that re-indexes when docs change, the dashboard that shows what customers asked, the connectors to their help desk, and a widget that stays up without them running a server. The RAG is easy; keeping it fresh, measured and online is the recurring work.

Your build guide

The stack, security requirements, and agent rules for a focused replacement.

Before you start

  • Runtime and tools: Python, FastAPI, SQLite FTS5 and a locally installed Ollama server for embeddings and answers.
  • Before starting: A local Ollama model, Python, an approved sitemap or URL list and explicit public widget origin/rate limits.
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Python, FastAPI, SQLite FTS5 and a locally installed Ollama server for embeddings and answers
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Data design: Store SourceURL, CrawlRevision, Chunk, Conversation and Citation; retrieval stays within the one configured site's published knowledge revision and citations reference existing chunks.
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Setup: A local Ollama model, Python, an approved sitemap or URL list and explicit public widget origin/rate limits
engineering roadmap

Implementation plan

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Phase 1

Pin the working slice and create its example input: Index approved documentation, answer visitor questions with cited excerpts and offer a clear 'not found' response when retrieval is insufficient. Confirm setup: A local Ollama model, Python, an approved sitemap or URL list and explicit public widget origin/rate limits.

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Phase 2

Implement persistence and write-time invariants before decorating the UI: Store SourceURL, CrawlRevision, Chunk, Conversation and Citation; retrieval stays within the one configured site's published knowledge revision and citations reference existing chunks.

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Phase 3

Connect the working view to real saved state. Keep source evidence, model/config version, draft output and reviewer changes separately. Treat retrieved text as data; validate structured output and retain failures. Never silently send private material to a fallback provider.

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Phase 4

Expose the app-specific limits and recovery path in context: Limit crawling to approved hosts and keep admin material out of the public index. An embeddable widget needs origin/rate controls; generated answers still require an escalation path.

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Phase 5

Walk through this concrete acceptance case and preserve its exported evidence: Ask an unsupported question and include malicious instructions in a document; refuse to invent an answer or follow the document's instructions, while citing valid evidence for supported questions. Finish the README and backup/restore instructions; report unfinished capabilities explicitly.

the pro prompt
download AGENTS.md
Build me a self-hosted documentation chat widget for one site as a limited substitute for MagicChat. Requirements:

- Use Python, FastAPI, SQLite FTS5, and a locally installed Ollama server for embeddings and answers. Store fetched pages and source URLs in one SQLite database.
- Import a sitemap or a user-provided URL list for a site I control, with a page cap and manual refresh. Save title, canonical URL, fetch time, text chunks, and embedding vectors; show pages that could not be fetched.
- Search with FTS5 plus embedding similarity. Retrieve a small set of chunks and ask the local model to answer only from them; return source URLs and quoted excerpts with each answer, or say the docs do not answer it.
- Serve a small embeddable script and chat panel from my server. Allow only configured site origins, rate-limit visitor requests, and keep a visible link to the source documentation.
- Provide an admin view on localhost for import status, failed pages, recent questions, and a manual re-index button. Mask visitor personal data in logs by default.
- No accounts for visitors, telemetry, lead capture, scheduled re-crawls, multi-site tenancy, or claims that a similarity threshold prevents hallucinations. Hosting and model capacity remain my responsibility.
- README: Ollama model setup, public hosting and origin configuration, crawl limits, data path, and how to correct unsupported answers.

EDITORIAL IMPLEMENTATION CONTRACT
Working slice: Index approved documentation, answer visitor questions with cited excerpts and offer a clear 'not found' response when retrieval is insufficient.
Data and invariants: Store SourceURL, CrawlRevision, Chunk, Conversation and Citation; retrieval stays within the one configured site's published knowledge revision and citations reference existing chunks.
Boundary and recovery: Limit crawling to approved hosts and keep admin material out of the public index. An embeddable widget needs origin/rate controls; generated answers still require an escalation path.
Acceptance walkthrough: Ask an unsupported question and include malicious instructions in a document; refuse to invent an answer or follow the document's instructions, while citing valid evidence for supported questions.
Record actual dependency versions, permissions and provider access in setup instructions. Preserve originals, expose partial failures and document backup/restore. These are acceptance requirements, not a claim of a completed or production-certified build. Add the domain, recovery and acceptance rules to AGENTS.md so future edits preserve them.

$ open in your agent (prompt prefilled, you press enter), copy the prompt or copy or download AGENTS.md

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Alternatives to building your own

OnyxSelf-hosted chat over your own docs with connectors and permissions; heavier to run than a widget, but the whole RAG loop is yours.32kaug 2026open source↗

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MagicChat pricing

planmonthlyannual (per mo)what you get
free$0/workspace$0/workspace1 chatbot; 100 messages/month; 50 training pages; website embed; community supportOne visitor question plus the AI reply counts as one message; about 2,500 cleaned characters count as one page.
lite$29/workspace—1 chatbot; 7,500 messages/month; 500 pages; 1 team member; manual refreshAnnual billing is advertised at about 40% off, but the exact annual effective rate was not exposed in the retrieved page text.
starter$59/workspace—1 chatbot; 15,000 messages/month; 1,000 pages; 1 team member; manual refreshAnnual billing is advertised at about 40% off, but the exact annual effective rate was not exposed in the retrieved page text.
growth$129/workspace—2 chatbots; 33,000 messages/month; 10,000 pages; 4 team members; monthly auto-refresh; API accessAnnual billing is advertised at about 40% off, but the exact annual effective rate was not exposed in the retrieved page text.
scale$429/workspace—10 chatbots; 110,000 messages/month; 50,000 pages; 10 team members; weekly auto-refresh; daily auto-scanAnnual billing is advertised at about 40% off, but the exact annual effective rate was not exposed in the retrieved page text.
enterprise——Custom message volume, chatbot count, seats and compliance; HIPAA eligible with DPA/BAA on requestSales quote.

free tier1 chatbot, 100 messages/month and 50 training pages

billingmonthly + annual (annual advertised at about 40% off; exact effective annual tier prices not exposed)

hidden costsRemoving MagicChat branding costs $59/month. Each extra 5,000-message block costs $59/month. Prices exclude tax; paid plans have a 7-day trial.

pricing sources checked 2026-08-12 · pricing source ↗

Questions about MagicChat

Can you build your own MagicChat with AI?

Partly. A retrieval chatbot over your own docs is one of the most one-shottable products there is: crawl the site, chunk and embed it, answer from the top matches with an LLM, drop in a widget. What you don't get for free is the boring operational layer, scheduled re-crawls, analytics, lead capture and human handoff, multi-source connectors, and a hosted widget that stays up. Buildable in a weekend, real gaps after that.

What does the MagicChat build prompt cover?

The prompt starts with this scope: Index approved documentation, answer visitor questions with cited excerpts and offer a clear 'not found' response when retrieval is insufficient. Full-product capabilities excluded from the comparison include: scheduled auto re-crawl and content refresh; analytics and conversation-history dashboards; lead capture and human handoff. Follow the implementation plan and its prerequisites before expanding the build.

How do I use the prompt, AGENTS.md and agent skills?

Start with the MagicChat prerequisites and stack, then copy the prompt into your coding agent. Save the project rules as AGENTS.md in the project root. Linked skills are optional packages or source instructions for specific tasks; review their current contents and install only those matching the chosen stack. A skill does not supply API credentials or verify the finished app.

How long will this MagicChat project take?

The catalogue estimate is weekend for the limited scope. Setup, integration approvals, debugging, deployment and ongoing maintenance can add time. This is an estimate, not a delivery guarantee.

What would I give up by replacing MagicChat?

scheduled auto re-crawl and content refresh; analytics and conversation-history dashboards; lead capture and human handoff; multi-source connectors and integrations; hosted uptime for the widget; team seats and enterprise compliance (HIPAA/DPA/BAA). People pay so they never touch the plumbing: the crawler that re-indexes when docs change, the dashboard that shows what customers asked, the connectors to their help desk, and a widget that stays up without them running a server. The RAG is easy; keeping it fresh, measured and online is the recurring work.

What price is this guide comparing against?

The recorded Starter plan is $59/mo (monthly), checked 2026-08-12. Check the linked pricing source before buying. Building your own also has hosting, API and maintenance costs; the recorded amount is not a guaranteed saving.

What can I use instead of building MagicChat?

Onyx: Self-hosted chat over your own docs with connectors and permissions; heavier to run than a widget, but the whole RAG loop is yours. Check each option's license, hosting needs and feature limits.

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